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Whenever there's hope, make sure there is also action

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How can you make hope truly hopeful? Whenever you have hope, make sure there is also action.

Ready to move from fingers crossed wishful to front foot purposeful? This episode shows you how to make hope not just passive, but intentional and actionable.

You will hear practical ways to:

  • Treat hope as a doorway, then walk through it with action
  • List your top ten hopes, pick your top three, and set simple intentions for each
  • Use the 4D model to power progress through environment, relationships, and your physical, emotional and intellectual habits
  • Replace passive language in teams with ownership and next moves
  • Find micro moments each day that build momentum

See it in practice. Trainers ready by the door. A gym buddy expecting you. Or a living room arranged to bring people together. Tiny environmental and language cues shift how you feel and what you do.

By the end of the episode you will have one concrete move to take today. Write ten hopes, circle three, book the first step in your calendar, tell one person who will hold you to it, remove one energy drain, and take a five minute action now. You can do it!


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Hello, my name's Philippa Walla. My name is Penelope Walla, and we are two of the directors at 4D Human Being. And welcome to the 4D Human Being podcast. What's it all about, Pen? It's all about your personal and professional relationships, it's about your communication skills, how you lead, how you work and build teams, how you are looking after yourself and your well-being, and how you are much more at choice. What do we mean by that? Well, sometimes we can get a little caught in patterns in life. We can all be a little bit on our automatic pilot. So fully human being is all about helping us get back to choice and being a four-dimensional human being, and your fourth dimension, of course, is intention. So whether it's about your impact, your leadership style, your team dynamics, whether it's about your well-being, whether it's about your communication or your presentation skills. Anything that involves human beings interacting with other human beings, 4D Human Being are here to help. We're gonna take a deep dive and look at some tools, insights, theories that are gonna help you go from a 3D human doing to a 4D human being. So that you can happen to the world rather than the world simply happening to you. Well, welcome to 2026 proper January 2026. I mean, it's the same old trope, isn't it? Of still waiting for 2025 to get to start. I know what happened to 2025. I remember I remember at the end of October in 2025. I said, like, what's happened to October? And now the whole year's gone. What a year though, Phil. What a year. On so many levels. Where do we start? Anyway, this isn't this isn't actually this this part. Let's we're not looking back. No, exactly fair. We're not looking back, we're looking forward. We're not just looking forward with our fingers crossed, and I think that's what we want to talk about. That this is not, you know, brace yourself and hope see what happens, yeah, and hope that hope for the best. Actually, I have a really interesting relationship with hope, and this is I think partly through therapy work, is that on one level I really like it that as a therapist you hold the hope for a client when they when they can't yet hold it. So there is a place for it, definitely. Yes, and as they say, last thing to die. Last thing to die, Pandora's box and all that. On the other side of it, we don't want to get stuck in hope. No. Well, you and I were talking about this, weren't we weren't we? That on on the surface it's a nice word. When you hear that word, it sounds very sort of virtuous and optimistic. Nice and all those things. But it's it also feels very, very passive. I think that's if I just if I just curl up in a ball across my fingers. I hope so. What was it that that phrase, I'm hopeful but not optimistic. I'm not sure how I'm not sure how how useful that is. No, I know, Phil. Do you know what it makes me feel? Uh hope. It does make me feel exactly like I just described. It makes me feel like I just clearly there's something that maybe I'm worried about or not happy about. You know, that that's often when hope comes, when hope springs to us. And so hope always makes me feel like that I should be literally hunkering down in some sort of like close all my close all my curtains, hunker down, and sort of, yeah, just kind of sit there in a tight ball and go, cross my fingers, I'm just gonna wait this one out. I'm gonna wait this one. Do you know that that came up? I was listening to a political podcast and they were talking about that. You know, you just wait it out, and you're like, hmm, I have mixed feelings about what I mean. Some things you have to wait out, but other things you think, actually, this is what we want to talk about. There's a time to act. And if I think about a hope, pure, like you say, curled up in a ball, fingers crossed. My question is, and this will go back to the original, you know, what we talked about, hope is the last thing to die, you know, the the Roman or Greek god, where are we putting the power? Yes. If we're hoping that it happens, who's do who's doing that? Who or what is doing this is going to make that happen. And so And presumably, Phil, I'm gonna double down on that because presumably I go back to what I said earlier. If we're if we're in our hopeful state, that's gonna suggest that something is uncertain or we're nervous that something's gonna happen. So if we're not active in it, that suggests that the person who wants the opposite to what we want is active. And exactly. And we're like, oh, I hope, I I hope they sort of trip over and it doesn't work. What? Yeah, yeah. And I and and also with the with that, like you say, if I'm oh I'm not not convinced, I'm hopeful, but not convinced. So if I'm not convinced, I'm wondering what signals and messages I'm sending out already. So, like you say, it's sort of doubling down. I'm disempowering myself from having intention and action, and I'm also sending out, oh, it doesn't look good. Well, I I can't, I can't make it happen. Yeah. So I'm already not very sure about it. Yeah. The only thing I would say, Phil, is that I mean, going back to what we said right at the beginning, it does feel like on the side, you know, it feels like a nice thing. Like, I mean, it's better, isn't it better to be hopeful than hopeless? Well, I think here's how I'm gonna frame it. Overall, I would say my initial position was switch hope for intention and action. Actually, I don't think it's a switch. I think it's a doorway. And I think if you've got two doors, one says hopeful and one says hopeless, you definitely want to walk through the hopeful door. But it's only a door to a pathway that you've now got to choose. Who's choosing? Who's choosing the hopeless? But ah, well, let's discuss. Let's discuss the benefits. Come on, because there are benefits, aren't there? Oh, hopeful, hopefully. Ted, Ted, what are the benefits of going through the hopeless door? Because there are many. What are they? What do you have to do or not do when you walk through the hopeless door? Pretty much nothing. Exactly. Nothing. You walk through the hopeless door, you say, I've already decided there's no point, so I'm not taking one step further. So there's lots of benefits to hopelessness. Well, also you can blame other people because you've already decided. Over to you. I've shed all responsibility, I've made a very clear choice. I've walked through the hopeless door. I've really, I've really felt my colours to last. I am gonna say after the hurtling down the Christmas mountain, there might be a day over the Christmas holidays where I feel like I'll just I'll just spend an hour in the open. But Pen, Pen, I think, I think that's okay. I mean, I might put a temporary label, I might put a label on the door saying, you know. Oh a timer. Yeah, exactly, a timer, exactly, exactly. Just, you know, a a break from hope. It's like a little time out. Exactly, exactly, but then exactly, then you're you know, your Pomodoro goes off after 25 minutes and you're back out. But you can definitely have a little indulgence, you know what, I'm gonna release myself from home. Can you imagine if I said to my kids, so they come down for breakfast and I say, kids, kids, I'm just having an hour in a hopeless room. Yeah. Mother, there's no there's no time for that. You you're you're holding all the hope here, quite frankly. Exactly. But but it's a door, it's a doorway. Yeah. And I think you're right. I think let's reframe hopeless as just a little a little mini break where you just get to indulge in the I'm not doing anything here. But it's a temporary. But but but the doorway to hope, it's just a doorway. Yes, you can't then stop. Well, also you can't then just go, you can't walk forward just holding hope. Actually, it's just the doorway, that's the decision. I'm hopeful, I believe something can change here. Walk through the door, I'm afraid from that moment hope stands at the doorway and they that's it, they don't get through. From the moment you said, I hold hope, you walk through the door, and then you have intention and action. Because if you just step over the hopeful door and stand there, it's pretty similar to the hopeless door, isn't it? With less furnishing. Exactly, exactly. Well, it's no different to being on the other side of the hopeful door, isn't it? Well, exactly. In fact, it's worse because there's a path, you can see a path ahead of you that you're refusing to walk on. It's worse. Now you just feel terrible and guilty. Well, it's the it's the act, it's the active versus passive, isn't it? Which is, you know, which is what which is why I love the word, but I also really visualize the word as as passive. And as you say, why while sometimes it's good to have a break, passive is really the definition of letting the world happen to you, isn't it? Yeah. And also, you know, we've all watched enough movies to know that we are absolutely drawn to stories where when hope has is dying on the floor, it's the it's the third act in a movie where it's the darkest before the light. And it's when hope is gone that we love that the hero tries first. Still going. And it's like Paul Coelho's the alchemist, I think he's in The Alchemist, where he talks about you know, looking that he's he's looking for the jewel, I can't remember the exact metaphor, and has to turn over stone after stone, and he just wants to give up because he's turned over so many stones in so many caves. And and the meta and and the parable is just one more. Yeah, when everyone else has given up hope, you just turn over one more. So, you know, the idea that you have to have hope actually it's almost stories that we really love is when hope is gone. Yes, I think the courage to keep going. Yes, well, it's you know, and it's exactly as you said, it's it's have hope, but almost as a catalyst to then doing something. So, like if I think about my dog, for example, he's a brilliant example. I think dogs are very hopeful creatures. Um I think Bear spends most of his day hopeful that he'll get more food. Even if he's just been fed, he's hopeful he's gonna but he doesn't just sit on the sofa and hold hope. He comes into the kitchen and he taps and pushes his bowl relentlessly, and he's and he's and he's right because he's more likely with those eyes and he's more likely to get fed. And what he's doing is A, he's setting an intention, but B, he's giving a signal to the universe and he's trying to manifest something like he's he's actively in it. He's not just thinking she'll read my mind, I'm sitting on the sofa hopeful. I'm gonna and let's be clear about how actually successful that is because you have to put him on diets, don't you? Because it works, doesn't it, Ben? So he has every reason for everything to be hopeful. Exactly. So so let's apply this because why are we talking about hope? Well, as we look forward to look forward to 2026, we can stand here on the threshold of 2026, fingers crossed, hopeful for all the things that we would love it to be or not to be, perhaps based on last year or the aforementioned whatever. But you know, all the things that we'd really love. And what we would say is actually let's really get practical and pragmatic about this. If there are ten things that you hope happen this year, write them down. Now circle your top three. The top three things. Yeah. So so all the things that you'd that you'd really hope would happen. So I'd like to do to build more community, or I'd like to write a journal, or I'd like to get fit, or whatever it might be. All the ten things that you really hope will happen. Now pick your top three. And for us at 4D, that is where you put your intention and you energize your actions, and that is how you make things happen. But when that's too diverse, when it's too broad, and when it's just sitting in hope, it's like a sort of blemange of it's a schmogers board, isn't it? It's like a restaurant that serves every kind of food and you don't really know what it is. Actually, get get focused, pick, pick your three things and put your energy there and don't get distracted. So that's your first, that's your first exercise. We're gonna move we've stepped. It's really hard to narrow it down to three, Phil. Well, it's your start, isn't it? I mean, look, Penn, by June you might have accomplished them all, but yeah, you know, it's getting it's getting focused. So so so let's say you hope 2026 is gonna be the year that you want it to be. You've stepped through that door. Now, what does that actually mean? Write down those ten things. Yeah. Now pick your top three. Okay, great. Now, what do you need? So there's two things here. One is you need to actually set intentions around those three things, and the second one is you need the energy to do it. So you want to think about clear intentions, so those are things I'm gonna do. So we can talk to this pen two PT sessions a week. The the goal is not to become ultra marathon runners, the goal is to be 10-20% fitter by the end of the year. Well, that's a change. Yeah, and I I was even going to slightly question the word goal. I mean, sometimes goals are useful. But do you know what's better for me than like if I set a goal of uh I don't know, I want to have more toned arms or I want to lose a couple of kilos or something really quite tangible. My intention is to do two fitness sessions a week. That's right. That feels yeah, that feels more useful to me. It may not be the same for everybody. I agree, and this ch this speaks to the James Clear, doesn't it? That's the process, and also I would say on that that we can add in, okay, so that's the intention, if you like, to do two PT sessions a week, which is manageable. This is obviously amongst all the other things that we do. Um but the thing that for me energizes that is doing it together. So if you so if you think about energy sources, and part of that is sleep and food and all those things that that are very obvious, of course, enough rest. And what are the pieces that really give you energy? Well, I was gonna say, because what's really interesting about that, Phil, is I go back to the passive versus active, because of course I could hope that I do two PT sessions a week, but to move from that passive hope into sort of active intention and manifestation, I need some energy, I need some motivation, I need to put you know energy in motion to start to start acting. And you're so right. I think very often we sort of will it. We sort of think, well, I've just I've just got to be disciplined and will it. And actually, I think that's one of the hardest ways to move from hope to intention. We've got to find different routes in, and that that's a really good one. Well, actually, if if we go back to the if we go back to the metaphor of stepping through the hope door, that idea of willpower, we've immediately set an obstacle course against which we've got to battle. Yes. Whereas the idea of you and I standing at that threshold together, go, oh, should we take two steps? Yeah, come on. And we haven't set up that grind of the willpower that's needed to push against some sort of resistance, as if when you step through the hope door, the universe is pushing back on you, saying, no, no, no, you're never gonna do it. And I think that that's part of the mindset that hope almost sets up. If we only stay in hope, we're almost setting up the idea that we're hoping, but it's almost got a butt built into it. Whereas the idea that, right, we've decided that this is possible, we've decided that that we hope this will happen, that's good, that's done now. Now we're standing here, and all we're asking ourselves is what's our what's our next step, what's our one intention, and how are we gonna energize that? And that energy piece feels so vital, and there's a couple of things on that. One is being really clear with yourself, like really, and and and I I love I really enjoy exercising, and I absolutely know not so much for you, yeah. But I what but what I really realize with doing the gym session, because I don't love strength work as much, but doing it with you is absolutely changes it because it's playful, it's fun, it's something we can do together, it totally removes the obstacles for me. So it's really knowing that about yourself and the set the what energizes you, and we can come to sort of how you might brainstorm some of those using the 4D model, in fact. But the other thing that comes up for me, which I've been talking about this morning with a client, is the idea that we can move into a new year with new intentions that we that we that we want to put energy towards without releasing any space from all the other things that we're already doing that aren't bringing us what we want. And we have we have to go back to that idea of stop what we're gonna stop doing or do less of to allow some energy to go where we actually need it to go. And that goes back to the point of writing that list and only choosing your top three. To be realistic, we cannot fire up 10, 20 things on a list and cross our fingers that that's gonna be enough energy for those things. It won't be. Yeah. But exactly as you say, what are the day-to-day behaviours and actions that are really bringing this to life? And I think what we've just talked about in quite a sort of you know, Greek myth, you know, way about stepping through a door, that sort of metaphor of stepping through the hope door, but then acting, really speaks to 40 human being and the leadership development and the training that we do is we love the, we, you know, we love the the concept and we love the the theory of development and change. And what you and I and Matt and everyone who works with us absolutely share is that's great to sit there and talk about it. And this podcast is a place that we can do that and we do it with Matt. And in the room, we what we want more than anything is for leaders and teams to walk out with tangible actions, they could literally walk into another room in that in the next five minutes and do something or say something that actually moves towards that change. Because talking and intellectualizing, whether it's in therapy or in change, is a very, very sneaky well, also it's a sneaky defense against doing it because we could sit and talk about going to the gym and planning it and what it will give us, and the theory of V2O max and hitting your, you know, 80% and we could talk about that to a blue in the face. But actually you've got to get your trainers back. You've got to get your trainers on. Yeah. Well, the other thing as well, you know, the big watch out. If I think about the end of a day in a in a in a training room, and sometimes you hear from the delegates about what's really landed, what they're gonna do. If you hear words like um, I'm going to try, or I hope that I'll That's it, you go you go, Woohoo, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop. Reverse, wrong door, wrong door! So I I really want to use that as a as a call out for teams and leaders. If at the end of a meeting or an offsite, similarly to us in a training room, if you hear the language when you're going into action, when you hear the language of, well, I I hope what's going to happen next, or I hope what I'll do next, you've absolutely right. You've press press pause, break, and remove that word. So you've all let's say let's say you've already stepped through the hope door. What I'm going to do is what's going to happen next is my energy is going to go towards or even my intention, which is you know, slightly slightly, slightly softer, yeah, but it's personal, yeah. It's in control of it. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm driving. That's exactly right, Phil. Yeah. Yeah. It's not the finger crossing. Yeah, so exactly. And and as a leader, if you find yourself at the end of an off-site or a meeting saying to your team, you know, I hope that you enjoyed it, and I really hope that you take some of these things away, which is such normal language. Stop, pause. See what happens if you remove the word hope. Assume hope is here. Assume that you wouldn't have booked the offsite if you didn't hope that something would change. Yeah. And now ask the question, what are you taking away? Tell me. Do you know that sometimes, Phil? It's really interesting because I've I've noticed my relationship with this word. And sometimes when I send maybe, maybe, for example, follow-up emails to clients after a session. Of course, a really standard thing to say is I hope the session was useful. And I look at it and I just I something about that language. I don't so sometimes I change it to I trust the session was useful, which is slightly, or I I imagine the session was useful. That feels a little bit more like Yeah. I mean, I we're sort of we're sort of together, we're in control of this and what you're gonna do with it, rather than well, let's just both yeah, yeah. I hope it was, which always leaves that space for, but maybe not. Maybe it wasn't, yeah, maybe it wasn't. And there's something about signalling to yourself and to the universe and to other people that this is happening. It's so powerful. I was reading something last night about how we are signalling to our own internal systems all the time, and we don't think about that, we think about communication as going outwards. Yeah, outwards, yeah, yeah. But you are signalling to your own internal system all the time what is possible and what's going to happen next. So when you're saying to your own body, well, I hope we get fit, your body doesn't know what to do with that. It's got it's got it's Well it does. It does go and sit on the sofa and open the biscuits. That's the problem. Okay, so let's let's so let's go to. I've already I've got too many chocolates in my house, Phil. It's well I've given you mine. If I well, you've given them to me. I can't make chocolates in there. If I opened, if I opened that hopeless door and sat on that sofa, I mean there's enough chocolates to take you through to Christmas 2026. Yeah. Really? I've got to go through that hopeful door. Yeah, because you've got to go through that hopeful door, exactly. So let's talk about what how you can how you can. So we've talked about how you can set an intention, you can write down your top ten, circle your top three, and prioritize them. It's not fix, it's a bit like a website, it's a movable feast, it's organic, it's gonna change, you know. Come march, that might shift. Things, you know, things change. Don't we don't have to think about lists as fix. But that so then once you've got those, let's use the 4D2C model to think about what really, really energizes you. So I'm gonna start from the outside. So because we've got the intention in the middle. Start with environment. So environment and relationship. So we think about the 4D2C model, I'm sure everyone who's listening knows it. You've got intention in the middle, and then around that, you've got the doughnut of physical, emotional, and intellectual, are very kind of our three dimensions in the middle, fourth dimension, intention, which is what we're really talking to. It's gonna fire up the whole model. And then the outside, you've got the two contexts, which is relationships and environment. So let's start with environment. Well, the environment is a much bigger, I mean, a much bigger influence in terms of our intentionality and our action than we perhaps think it is. So if you think about this model, we're pushing as hard as we can to be operating from that central intentional dimension. So we're pushing out and we're making choice. Rather than the world pushing in on us. Rather than the world pushing in. And of course, you can set things up in your context that even if they're pushing in on you and sort of slightly determining your actions, that's going to be helpful. So, you know, an example that you you have said before is, you know, put your running shoes by the front door, and then it's more likely that you're going to step into that. Actually, to add to that, Pen, so that's a that's a really good point, which I don't know if we've always done that exact comparison. That you're exactly right. The environment is influencing you as much as you're influencing your environment. This is all of this symbiotic relationship. Exactly. So a packet of open biscuits on your kitchen counter or a pair of trainers by the door are both in the environment impacting you. But both doing very different things. And like you say, all of the all of the gift chocolate that you're going to give to other people sitting in your house is in the environment impacting you. You know, the cozy blanket on the sofa. None of it's good or bad. It's just knowing that this is all influencing you. And if your running gear or gym gear is too difficult to get to, it's good you're you're making it hard. I mean, look, we know all of this. It's just that we I think the environment is the one that really gets put at the bottom of the list, and it's so powerful. I mean, it's so powerful. I mean, a really tiny one, but a really important one for me, is my own, my my house. And and one example of this is look, my my kids are likely to go to their rooms. They like their rooms, they like to be on their own, they're doing all their stuff, chatting to friends, social media, whatever they're doing. So it's a that's a really nice environment for them. Now, if I want the kids to be in the lounge with me and whatever we'd watch something together, whatever it might be, I know, and this is sort of instinctive, but I know I've got to put some nice lighting in there, light a fire, maybe light a candle. There's got to be something in the environment that is gonna pull them in there. If if if I'd left all the lights off, not lit a fire and said, Oh, you know, should we watch a movie together? I know that they'll go off. They won't really think about it, but just instinctively the environment's not pulling them in. Do you know what else you do brilliantly? Is you populate every plug socket in that house with a phone charger. I do. So if you go into the living room, it doesn't matter what sofa you're on or what end of what sofa you're on, there will be a charger. And I love that about your house. Yeah. Because that, I mean, that is has one of the biggest influences to where someone is going to sit for any period of time. It's so it's such a good example. And if you think about this in terms of the workplace, if you've got a team that you want to get really bonded and energized and activated and excited, and some of them are working from home, some of them are in the office, but it's sort of they're facing the wall or they're in different desks. If you've got a galley kitchen, for example, in your office, how are you creating a space that means people you people cannot avoid those informal moments of conversation because that you can shape the environment? You know, another good example would be like exactly that. Could you put like a coffee counter with a super fast charging, multi-charging port? Something that's gonna draw people there, and then that because then they'll start talking, like it's all having an influence, and you can you can do some of that, you can make it really appealing. So, question is what is your version of Penelope's making making the living room really appealing to her kids? How are you making a shared space really, really appealing? It's a it's a really good example, isn't it, of change philosophy where we think that that rational intellectual, come and I need I need the team to collaborate more in 2026. Like you can say it, you can say it, you can say it. Yes, it might go in 5%, great. If you shift the environment in terms of where you hold the meetings, how you hold the meetings, where people are sitting, where they where where they simply have to interact and and crossy chairs, that is gonna do a lot more in terms of people's um people's intentionality and their behaviours. Where do you want to eat your sandwiches? If there's two if there's two comfy sofas facing each other, they'll go there. Do you know? I don't I don't know if I've shared this on the podcast before, but I love one of the research examples around this, which was a university professor whose students were always, always late. And he told them again and again and again and again, you've got to be on time, you've got to be on time, you won't won't get your credits, bloody bloody blah blah. Nothing happened, nothing happened, nothing happened. And eventually he pulled the comfy sofa into the front of the lecture space. Um and I know where you're going. And and he said, the people who get here first get the comfy sofa. And that did it. That was it. It was done, it was over. I mean, there was a fight to get there early. So to link that with what we're talking about of energizing intention, he had created a very strong influence that wasn't just about changing behaviour, they had to fire up more energy to take the action to get there early to reach that result. And he used he used the environment. Exactly. That's great. So that's the environment. The second one is relationship. We have spoken to this briefly, of course, with the gym because doing something with you definitely, definitely energizes me. Like, how much easier would it be to go, oh, I'm just gonna cancel that, of course, if it was just me on my own. You'd be like, Ben Penn's left her own at the gym, she won't be happy. Yeah, and exactly. Well, actually, do you know what even I would even add to that is that I would feel like you might not go. No. And so I'm I'm I'm reducing your goals as well, your fitness, your your intention. So I think that that shared commitment. We know this in teams, that public shared commitment is huge. So who energizes you? Who helps you really send energy towards an intention? Use that relationship. Let's go into the donut, so physical, emotional, intellectual. Oh, this came up as my. I'm gonna start with the intellectual. This was I had a really interesting conversation with my supervisor actually this morning about the not getting stuck at the intellectual, so always rationalizing because that can actually stop action as we talked about. Yeah, but using it again as a motivator that as soon as you understand something, you understand why you need it or what you need or an idea that excites you or fires you up, it can really be a help to get you energized and motivated. So for some people, it's learning or it's that bit of knowledge, or it's understanding why. So to understand where your rational brain, where you're intellectual. So I think it's fair to say for you, Penn, that that organizing intellectual, yeah, that getting things into um tables or into an Excel spreadsheet or getting things completed, that intellectual completion is very energizing for you. Yeah, totally, totally. And a a a different one that I heard today from a client, which was very interesting, which was around again big changes in an organization, and how there can be a real lack of collaboration and action when people do not understand the meaning and the broader context for why decisions have been made or why people think certain things, and people just stop, yeah. They just they just don't do the thing that they need to do. Um, so I think meaning making, particularly through uncertainty and change, is a huge driver intellectually. And actually, we know one of our tools in this would be three things like nice and concise, give people the three reasons why they should do it. And the other thing I would say on the intellectual, it's also you don't need to read ten books to get fired up. Sometimes um we talked in the last podcast about the William Irving book on stoicism, and I can pick that up and read one paragraph and have a and immediately have an idea and feel my and feel inspired and motivated. So you it only needs to be tiny to be to energize you. Okay, emotional. So emotional, this can tie in with relationships, other things, of course, might be pets, music, uh, might be pictures, anything that gets you emotionally moved. And actually, I would say on this, what I love about this one is if you've got a negative emotion, don't panic, Mr. Mannering, as a reference to some 1960s TV. Dad's army! Um, yeah, dad's army. That it's not that we're encouraging negative emotion, but actually, how could you use it? Because for for lots of people who've got to, you know, achieve amazing things in their lives, sometimes they come from you know what? I was like, I'm gonna sh I'm gonna prove it. So if you've got anger or irritation, die, get underneath it and say, okay, what's this asking of me? And you and use it, you know, channel that anxiety is another one, channel that into creativity. Arguably, this is perhaps the most important thing in terms of uh sort of motivation to act and intention, because of course, if you if you don't put energy behind those negative emotions, of course, it goes it can really go into the collapse and into the hope and into the hopelessness. Yeah, absolutely. So, very, very often, if things feel tough and you don't, you know, you don't feel as hopeful as you would like, energy and action is your best friend in order to shift your emotional state. Exactly. So use that, use that emotion to act, and that takes us to the physical, uh, which is your quickest doorway in, really. Move, move, move, get off the sofa, just move. I mean, it's not complex. And actually, you know, there's so much research done on this. If you're overwhelmed, if you're overthinking, if you're worried, if you're ruminating, if you, you know, scared of the future, uncertain, do something. Yeah, it's it has an immediate relationship with anxiety to reduce it. That overthinking, if you can do something and act, you're the graph immediately the fear starts to reduce. Yeah, and it well, it makes sense as well, doesn't it? In terms of intentionality, like you can sit there and either ruminate or you can sit there and plan and think about the things you're gonna do. But of course, the brain's getting no signals that that is actually gonna happen, that that is actually a reality, and therefore your belief system is left thinking, wow, yeah, I don't know if this whereas if the body's moving, all your brain knows is this is happening. Yeah, and I think I was so two things on this one is time. If you've only got five minutes and you think, oh, I'll just finish this bit of work before my next call, those are your micro moments in 2026. You are gonna give yourself so much more by using that five minutes to move. I know it's easy to say, really create that habit because it's not just that you're not moving in that moment, it's that every time you do that, you're signalling to your body that we stay sitting at the computer and we just keep completing tasks. And there's no space for your brain to have other ideas or creativity at all. And the other thing on that is the sitting that we've said it before, we'll say it again, it's only increasing that sitting is the new smoking. So move, move, move. Like we it's sort of like the days are gone where you know we were harvesting and tossing, this is me tossing hay bales into a cart back in sort of the 1800s. That's a light, that's a light. That's a light hay bale, exactly. That's more like some the dance of the hay bells. But actually, what really strikes me about physical movement is that we have to be we have to be very conscious of it now. It's not as bedded in anymore. Whereas where it used to be bedded in much more, it's just not. So we have to we have to put it in. So that would be one of the call-outs to 2026. Micro moments move, yeah. And of course, it's the absolute classic when we're talking about going from passive to active in terms of our intentionality. Of course, the physical is the one that pulls us out of the passive the quickest. And actually, really important to say on the physical, I think what can get in the way as a blocker to us releasing that energy is the intellectual that I don't I haven't got a reason to move because I haven't made a decision of what I'm gonna do. And actually, what we would say, this is the important override, as you step through the hope door, you've got in a way, you've got to stop relying on the intellectual to give you a reason to move forward because then you get into well, is it worth me putting my gym shoes on? I mean, the you know, how many calories am I actually gonna burn in one session at the gym? And how many sessions is it actually gonna take to get fit? Like your the ego wrapped around the intellect will work hard to make you stop. Actually, the real trick is to play the to gamify it is to move with no reason. I don't even know where I don't know quite where I'm going on the walk, I don't know why I'm going for a walk, I'm gonna but I'm doing it. And actually, to override the intellectual to release that physical energy. Well, I did this the other day with our second PT session. I've got a lot on at the moment, and I needed to get up super early in order to get everything done before the PT session. And I was I was laying in bed thinking, well, I think it's fair enough on a Saturday not to not to go. I mean, it's by weekend and Philippa won't mind, and I went on Wednesday, and you know, I've got lots of things to do, and I was scheduling it all out in my head. And then Bear was on the bed and he just moved, and I just said to myself, just move. Just move how wonderful. I know, and it doesn't even matter if those thoughts still were coming, the body was moving. And of course, I made I made it to the PT session. And actually, what was interesting about that, Phil, now that I think about it, is I didn't have to reverse engineer the intellectual thought. I didn't then have to say, well, actually, I should go because of XYZ. Like I didn't even need to bother with it. The physical had done it. The physical had taken over. Yeah, the physical had done it. Yeah. There's I mean, there's research, isn't there, with um with people who are with depression, or that if you ask them to quite literally just smile without a reason to smile, just move the face into a smile on a daily basis, they do much better than people who who haven't been asked to do that. And it's just a physical movement, but it starts signalling to the body. Oh, I think I don't think we're as depressed as we thought. So the physical is so powerful. More signals going from body to brain than brain to body, one of my favourite pieces of research. So, switch hope for intention and action in 2026. Assume you've stepped through the hope door, pick your top three things for this year that you that you want to put intention around, and from the 4D2C model, how are you gonna resource yourself and get energized to start taking those steps and enjoy them exactly along the way? So, yeah, hold hope lightly, let it go at the door and go for it. Yeah. Hopeful and intentional for 2026. 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